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talking to and fro, when president obama was speaking and saying a fiscal cliff deal was in sight, we saw the dow spike back above the 13,000 market pch pairing those gains a little bit as we speak. still below the 13k mark right now. we will watch this as we continue to get headlines. let's talk to aimian who is also falling a minute by minute changes. what is the latest in your camp? >> the deal john just outlined would be a relief here on capitol hill. i talked to congressman last night who were worried that negotiations would break down and the democratic senate would send over a hot potato bill. they thought they would be forced to be under a position of rejecting the bill, voting against it or having tspeaker just sit on it and kill it completely. they did not want to be the last people in this debate to vote this thing down. now it looks like what will happen is they will get a bill at some point, perhaps later today or some evening that might be something a good solid group of republicans can co-eless around. it has been the big question throughout this. can the democrats and
talking to and fro, when president obama was speaking and saying a fiscal cliff deal was in sight, we saw the dow spike back above the 13,000 market pch pairing those gains a little bit as we speak. still below the 13k mark right now. we will watch this as we continue to get headlines. let's talk to aimian who is also falling a minute by minute changes. what is the latest in your camp? >> the deal john just outlined would be a relief here on capitol hill. i talked to congressman last...
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obama in it to break the party or the gop? >> as a democrat, i wish that, but the reality is he is far more liberal than they think he s he wants the deal. regardless of what howard dean wants, he clearly wants a deal and whether or not he is going to get it doesn't seem like it is going to happen before midnight. that is one of these issues that elections are supposed to decide those things. >> and larry elder. i'll give you the last word on our new year's show. the debt ceiling is coming. but nobody wants america to default. >> the debt ceiling is coming. the end game is a value added tax on top of the irs so that we have the western style welfare state. tax es are going to go up next year also. >> maybe. >> taxes. >> president obama has never said anyone of those thing. >> happy new year. thank you very much. thank you very much. appreciate it. the night continues head over to cnbc.com for the latest. happy new year everybody and all of 2012. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i th
obama in it to break the party or the gop? >> as a democrat, i wish that, but the reality is he is far more liberal than they think he s he wants the deal. regardless of what howard dean wants, he clearly wants a deal and whether or not he is going to get it doesn't seem like it is going to happen before midnight. that is one of these issues that elections are supposed to decide those things. >> and larry elder. i'll give you the last word on our new year's show. the debt ceiling is...
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president obama asked the senate leaders to try to make a deal. we'll get more on all of it from washington next. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> welcome back to "the kudlow report." i'm michelle caruso-cabrera in for larry kudlow. we continue to wait for a fiscal deal. president obama has punted the decision to the senate asking them to come up with a deal. the markets don't like it. they sold off today during the after-hours session and stocks are getting hammered. we haven't seen anything from president obama on the deteriorating
president obama asked the senate leaders to try to make a deal. we'll get more on all of it from washington next. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive....
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the real condition here is will president obama make a new deal for any deal that could be gotten done. >> i just tweeted that out, you nailed, it eamon. lots of finger-pointing an complaining and sour grapes going on and very little in the way of compromise talk. thanks very much. continue to monitor the situation and get back to you, if we need to. >> in the meantime, what does all this wringling. >> and harry reid going at it with senator mcmcconnell. we'll talk to outgoing kay bailey hutchison and get her take. what is she hearing? will we get a deal or not. >> also ahead, does the tax code untearily penalize investors over borrowers. someone here says absolutely, and he warned it's going to get worse once we go over the clip. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male
the real condition here is will president obama make a new deal for any deal that could be gotten done. >> i just tweeted that out, you nailed, it eamon. lots of finger-pointing an complaining and sour grapes going on and very little in the way of compromise talk. thanks very much. continue to monitor the situation and get back to you, if we need to. >> in the meantime, what does all this wringling. >> and harry reid going at it with senator mcmcconnell. we'll talk to outgoing...
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at the same time, when you ask the question, maybe it's better -- it's a bad deal worse than no deal? president obama keeps talking about half a trillion in cuts, over ten years, we're doing that every five months when it comes to the deficit. $100 billion more person month that we spend over what we take in. you have to have bigger cuts on the table to get republicans to come along. >> we're only paying for 40% of what we spend today. it's interesting to see and what the futures are doing right now. very thinly traded at this hour on a friday evening it would be interesting to see and what they signal in terms of where we stand, now that we've heard from the president and some sort of modest optimism from both leader reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> tyler, we want to go back to eamon javers. >> you just said when will we hear now from the president again? nbc news is tweeting that barack obama will appear as a guest on "meet the press" this weekend. when we will hear from the president again will be sunday morning. something to watch out for over the weekend. presumably,
at the same time, when you ask the question, maybe it's better -- it's a bad deal worse than no deal? president obama keeps talking about half a trillion in cuts, over ten years, we're doing that every five months when it comes to the deficit. $100 billion more person month that we spend over what we take in. you have to have bigger cuts on the table to get republicans to come along. >> we're only paying for 40% of what we spend today. it's interesting to see and what the futures are...
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president obama earlier on today saying it does appear a deal on the fiscal cliff is nearing. it is within sight. obviously a bit of work still to be done here. even mitch mcconnell says we are very, very close. so the markets have moved up on that hope we will get a done deal and avert the fiscal cliff. >>> positioning portfolios for the new year, i can majs is tricky right now. there's a lot of mess going on in d.c. we're going to help. we're going to give you the single best play for 2013. >>> and also next, two congressman, one democrat one republican. they're going to talk to us about the fiscal cliff. are they happy or sad? and can they rise above to get a deal done? "closing bell" will be back after this break. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and with sch
president obama earlier on today saying it does appear a deal on the fiscal cliff is nearing. it is within sight. obviously a bit of work still to be done here. even mitch mcconnell says we are very, very close. so the markets have moved up on that hope we will get a done deal and avert the fiscal cliff. >>> positioning portfolios for the new year, i can majs is tricky right now. there's a lot of mess going on in d.c. we're going to help. we're going to give you the single best play...
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if the deal we're hearing about makes it out of the senate, will the house pass it? >> let's ask congressman john yarmuth. i want to ask you point blank. do you think president obama purposely slowed things down today? >> no, i don't think so at all. what i think he was trying to do was probably to try to send a signal to the democratic base that this didn't resolve the crisis that things were still in flux. that the spending portion of this dilemma, so-called sequester, is really critical to democrats. because democrats have compromised, given up an awful lot on spending programs that are important to us. if you do away with the sequester, you see what the alternative is. last week it was plan "b." it added money for defense. slashed money for education and food stamps and nutrition programs and medicaid. that is something that's great concern to democrats. >> what are they giving up on spending? >> what are we giving up on spending? well, actually, there's a $1.2 trillion on the table right now under our democrats who say let it go. let the across the board cuts ta
if the deal we're hearing about makes it out of the senate, will the house pass it? >> let's ask congressman john yarmuth. i want to ask you point blank. do you think president obama purposely slowed things down today? >> no, i don't think so at all. what i think he was trying to do was probably to try to send a signal to the democratic base that this didn't resolve the crisis that things were still in flux. that the spending portion of this dilemma, so-called sequester, is really...
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the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which would add up. it would kind of counteract the 85 billion. but bernanke is doing 2 billion a day, right? >> more. >> 2.5, yeah. so that would take away -- we could easily rachet it up. unless the printing presses overheat at that point. let's check on the markets this morning. the futures were indicated lower based on angst. there it is worse. it was down 40 earlier, not out 62. they were down 150 at one point. came back down to 18. we're somewhere. >> between there. let's check out some of these other boards that maybe we missed in the last hour. europe, europe is even moving on a
the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which...
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>> melissa, we're hearing signs of optimism about a potential deal. somewhere with an income tax threshold in the $400,000 to $500,000 range, not the $250,000 that president obama had been insisting on. although a source familiar with the talks told me a few minutes ago, if it goes between 400 and 500, democrats would get the full increase to 39.6. that is the clinton era rate, extension of unemployment benefits and increase in the estate tax. still the signs are that something is going to happen. in fact, bob corker, the senator from tennessee, was on with joe and i here from washington on "squawk box" and said there will be a deal, even if one that doesn't solve all of our long-term debt and deficit problems. here's bob corker. >> i do think there's going to be a resolve to this. the problem is, you know, we created this fiscal cliff to make some tough decisions. and none are going to be made. not one. >> so the question is going to be then, do the tough decisions on spending get made in january and february, running up to the debt limit. we'll see
>> melissa, we're hearing signs of optimism about a potential deal. somewhere with an income tax threshold in the $400,000 to $500,000 range, not the $250,000 that president obama had been insisting on. although a source familiar with the talks told me a few minutes ago, if it goes between 400 and 500, democrats would get the full increase to 39.6. that is the clinton era rate, extension of unemployment benefits and increase in the estate tax. still the signs are that something is going...
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will congress and president obama be able to pull together a fiscal cliff deal in time? we'll let you know, when we come back. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> well, of course, it isn't just the fiscal cliff we're counting down to. it's new year's eve and we want to say happy new year to everyone who is joining us or watching the program here today. earlier, we asked have you made any resolution, trade or otherwise, for 2013. we've got a couple at least. one here from jeff who says i resolve to invest in pets and pampering. petsmart people love pets and profit from it. that's true, actually.
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see, in this market, it fell down after obama got reelected, but then it's been working its way back up. the fact is that i think a deal will get done and the key part is avoiding incomes under 250,000 and that's probably what they're going do. >> why is that market participant or are you speaking politically there? >> no, i'm speaking as a market participant because the spending for income for people under 250,000 in income is an important economy and that part of the economic spectrum and what they have in their pocket affects what they spend. >> and i get your point. we're a consumer-driven economy. broadway an kelly, your assessment about what happens if we don't get a deal? what happens in the markets? >> i think you saw it this morning and it looked like we're doing a full cliff dive and the market started to tank. i agree with the consumer. look at the consumer con if ied thens morning and that was driving this economy. we had consumer confidence at five-year highs and it was awful and all due to this uncertainty over the cliff. so if we can get some kind of deal that would be
see, in this market, it fell down after obama got reelected, but then it's been working its way back up. the fact is that i think a deal will get done and the key part is avoiding incomes under 250,000 and that's probably what they're going do. >> why is that market participant or are you speaking politically there? >> no, i'm speaking as a market participant because the spending for income for people under 250,000 in income is an important economy and that part of the economic...
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care deal. and the ryan budget deferred all of the cuts in social security and medicare way out in the future. >> well, first of all, you're talking about social security and medicare, and the ryan budget was silent on social security. actually thought we should have talked about it. those things are always in the future. you start adjusting eligibility rates over time. >> what are the ten-year entitlement savings right now? >> well, frankly, honestly, if you did lower the age, number one, that would start right at the very end of that window. secondly, you can do -- we want means testing. we've never made any bones about that. that hits mostly upper income people. but we haven't seen it and we haven't been able to get it through. the cpi thing is another one. there's a whole variety of things you can do. they've got to be done in a bipartisan way. they've got to protect current recipients and be phased in. >> do you think that republicans -- entitlement -- >> in fact if you look at the letter s
care deal. and the ryan budget deferred all of the cuts in social security and medicare way out in the future. >> well, first of all, you're talking about social security and medicare, and the ryan budget was silent on social security. actually thought we should have talked about it. those things are always in the future. you start adjusting eligibility rates over time. >> what are the ten-year entitlement savings right now? >> well, frankly, honestly, if you did lower the...
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do we expect something like that, obama, the deal maker, obama the praying mattist, to use democrats in the congress in that way, or not? >> i don't see their incentives as being that much different. i do think that president obama, the leader of the democratic party, really has the leverage. i don't -- i expect that if there is a deal, that democrats don't like, you'll hear grumbling from the democrats, but i would be very surprised if you hear outright revolt. what democrats in congress want is more money. that's what president obama is facing. a full second term of under very constrained circumstances. he wants more rev new. i think he also wants, as much as he feels like he has that sword over republicans, the fact is if the economy goes into recession, that is going to affect the prospects for a successful second term for him and n a profound way. >> congressman cummings, if i still have you, i'm interested in your take on this. i think some friction between even a democratic controlled white house and a democratic controlled house or a democratic controlled congress, there is s
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any last-minute deal will likely have to wait until the senate returns. >> reporter: president obama summoned congressional leaders to the white house today hoping for a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the power brokers have four days before the government starts slashing military and domestic spending. president obama is pushing for a stop gap measure that with avoid faxes on people earning less than $25,000. on capitol hill frustration is growing. both republicans and democrats sound look they have given up. outside the capitol democrats hauled out a times square ball prop with the emergency, don't drop the ball. >> the republicans refuse to ask those with the most in our society to give a little bit more. >> reporter: a simple stop gap measure is not what many in washington had hoped for. republicans blame president obama for the collapse of a bigger deal that would have cut spending and reduced the country's debt. >> it is the president's responsibility to lay out a plan and to bring people together but it's a total dereliction of duty and a lack of courage to deal with the issue
any last-minute deal will likely have to wait until the senate returns. >> reporter: president obama summoned congressional leaders to the white house today hoping for a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the power brokers have four days before the government starts slashing military and domestic spending. president obama is pushing for a stop gap measure that with avoid faxes on people earning less than $25,000. on capitol hill frustration is growing. both republicans and democrats sound...
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even if we get a deal, what does this mean? it's a minimalist quick fix. it's not a debt and deficit grant grand bargain solution which obama and boehner were talking about weeks ago and it's probably not going to involve solving the debt ceiling problem. and, of course, we all saw what happened 18 months ago over the debt ceiling. it dragged on and on. bottom line, whatever happens in the next few days, markets, corporate america and consumers in america are probably going to have to deal with continued fiscal wrangling' in washington for weeks and weeks and weeks. >> we're going to talk more about the fiscal cliff and later on in the show. just coming back to europe for a second or touching on europe -- >> even more boring. >> because i'm quite looking forward to next year and i'm looking forward to hoping that we're not going to be sitting on politicians the same way we have over the last year, two years, looking at every single line that comes out of therefore mouths. i'm hoping we're going to see march of a sense of normality coming back into the euro
even if we get a deal, what does this mean? it's a minimalist quick fix. it's not a debt and deficit grant grand bargain solution which obama and boehner were talking about weeks ago and it's probably not going to involve solving the debt ceiling problem. and, of course, we all saw what happened 18 months ago over the debt ceiling. it dragged on and on. bottom line, whatever happens in the next few days, markets, corporate america and consumers in america are probably going to have to deal with...
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so to me, the president actually wants an argument more than a deal. he could have been helpful and instrumental in getting things done every six months to go through a budget crisis with president obama, he could figure out a way to lead and bring people together earlier. they can't call in mitch mcdonnell until the 26th and complain he was there at the last minute. i think there's a lot to be done to improve legislative affairs at the white house and would ultimately help president obama. >> and said about that, but mcconnell is still is late, he could have imposed himself, and not the way he does it. here is the fundamental problem. leaving aside the policy issue which i know is important to you all. if i get down to politics on bumper stickers, you're holding all of this up, including people's tax cuts it defend millionaires, that's all we have to say. >> and the democrats all agree that the bush tax cuts were the-- were good for the economy. that's had an amazing concussion that you're making-- >> and you're making -- let me finish here. the argum
so to me, the president actually wants an argument more than a deal. he could have been helpful and instrumental in getting things done every six months to go through a budget crisis with president obama, he could figure out a way to lead and bring people together earlier. they can't call in mitch mcdonnell until the 26th and complain he was there at the last minute. i think there's a lot to be done to improve legislative affairs at the white house and would ultimately help president obama....
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that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to vote for this pack am that the president is calling for. but politically what he is doing is essentially saying this is the plan i'm putting forth, let's get it through the senate and if it fails, it will fail through the senate house, letting republicans own that failure. putting it in a box. president obama giving the lawmakers here two options. one, to come up with their own alternative proposal. of course, that's something senate majority leader harry reid will work on. if not, he'll say put my plan to basic up or down vote. richard? >> kristen, i didn't
that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to...
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end to the brinksmanship in the deal and now a two-year end and now no deal and democrats say obama just defacto negotiated and the republicans know it and we have a crisis on the hands a month from now. >> well, we will have another crisis on the hands a month from now and back here staying up in the capitol late trying to figure out what the deal is. the president said today that if it comes down to that, it's not just spending cuts but there will be revenue in there, as well. but, you know, what's the leverage then? there's an interesting question. so, it will be deja vu all over again to quote a recent speech i heard. we have to see. >> michael, i see on november 6th, 234 republicans were elected. only 15 of them from congressional districts obama won. in 2014, 14 senators will be -- will go up for re-election. 13 of them will stay and -- 12 of them in states obama did not win and like we have 2 different parallel sort of universes trying to talk to each other and republicans don't really need and are not incented to work with obama because they're coming from constituency that
end to the brinksmanship in the deal and now a two-year end and now no deal and democrats say obama just defacto negotiated and the republicans know it and we have a crisis on the hands a month from now. >> well, we will have another crisis on the hands a month from now and back here staying up in the capitol late trying to figure out what the deal is. the president said today that if it comes down to that, it's not just spending cuts but there will be revenue in there, as well. but, you...
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without a deal what happens? >> some kind of deal, the economy continues to grow very slowly. we are doing all this spending to prop up the economy because the fundamentals are right. all of the things the obama administration has done have been anti growth, whether energy policy, trade with china, reregulation of wall street. and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this. the congressional budget office has out its numbers. if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted from domestic demand over $600 billion. that is about four percentage points in gdp. most economists were forecasting in the first half of next year hardly 2 percent growth. if you subtract 4% to spending from that year and a recession that is much deeper. the cbo tense
without a deal what happens? >> some kind of deal, the economy continues to grow very slowly. we are doing all this spending to prop up the economy because the fundamentals are right. all of the things the obama administration has done have been anti growth, whether energy policy, trade with china, reregulation of wall street. and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this....
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obama is preferring a $250,000 threshold, but in the process of trying to hammer out the deal, it is raised to $400,000 or $500,0 $500,000, and the base is going to be angry about that, and that is offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off on earlier such as changing the structure for social security will not likely be in this deal, and obviously, everything remains to be seen, and the estate tax is a big sticking point, because obama wants to see it go up, and the senate republicans will insist that it stay at the current rate. >> thank you, robert costa and sam stein. we will be back in a moment. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to hardball. what will a deal look like if there is one? and who is going to wind up giving up more on the tax cuts for wealthy americans? harry reid insists $250,000 is a threshold, but it may not hold. joining me now is josh green of bloomberg business week. josh, for the markets, for the business community, whether it is $250,000 and i know sit is a big deal for the politicia
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president obama put a deal on the table that made significant concessions to the republicans. if they had bought that deal, we would have bought about ten years of relative fiscal stability. i think we can still get around to making a reasonable deal after the deal. but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference.
president obama put a deal on the table that made significant concessions to the republicans. if they had bought that deal, we would have bought about ten years of relative fiscal stability. i think we can still get around to making a reasonable deal after the deal. but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the...
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this morning in an exclusive interview president obama said compromise will be a key to making a deal. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way. >> senate leaders hoped to send a plan right about now. the talks have broken down. listen to what senate leader said on the floor a short while ago. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we are running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i am interested in getting a result here. >> we have been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friends' proposal. we have been unable to do that. i had have had a conversation with the president and that this stage we are not able to make a counteroffer. >> what happens now? with us is cello o'donnell and kristen welker. >> we are sort of at a pause point. if you are looking at the tone of these lead
this morning in an exclusive interview president obama said compromise will be a key to making a deal. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way. >> senate leaders hoped to send a plan right about now. the talks have broken down. listen to what senate leader said on the floor a short while ago. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we...
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again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part of the discussion. that is significant development for house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and republicans will try to sell its house and senate members. if they can do that the voting begins. there is some progress report this evening, though t
again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to...
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but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it has only been down about 3%. these stocks are not acting like there's a disaster. i can give you several reasons why they're not down so far. number one, we are going to see eps growth in the fourth quarter from some of them because of the extra week that there is. number two, we've had much lower cotton costs this year. their overall costs are lower. that's helping their earnings. number three, inventory levels are much lower. and that's going to help their gross margins. number four, we had pretty good gdp numbers in q-3. number five, home prices are i
but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it...
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. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with melissa lee, cramer and neighborer are off today but we are joined by dennis. good morning to you dennis, thanks for coming in. futures today, a lot to deal with as you probably know. the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the market fade if there's no news to
. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with...
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that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class, which will mean letting them expire for the rich. that will net somewhere around $600 billion in new tax revenue. the white house will pocket that. they will have got in three quarters of what they wanted last year, before even the negotiations had really kicked off. then we're going to go over the
that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before...
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president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors st hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> reporter: the president declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first, but he also warned lawmakers to get their work done. >> the american people are not going to have patience with a self-inflicted wound on the economy. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called the white house meeting a good one and he told his fellow republicans h
president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors st hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled...
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president obama putting pressure on lawmakers to reach a deal. mr. obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the programs since 2009. he felt it was important to get the message out there. you are right he was pounding the same message again and again f. we go up the fiscal cliff for not meeting them halfway. >>> not because democrats and congre congre congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but i think it has been hard for speaker boehner and republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors w
president obama putting pressure on lawmakers to reach a deal. mr. obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the programs since 2009. he felt it was...
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president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> reporter: the president declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first but he also warned lawmakers to get their work done. >> the american people are not going to have patience with a self-inflicted wound on the economy. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called the white house meeting a good one and he told his fellow republicans
president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled...
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president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> i'm joined by congresswoman barbara lee a democrat from california. good to see you. good morning. >> good to see you. glad to be with you. >> let me give you the republican perspective. it is that some indications they are willing to give on taxes whether 400 or 450,000, that yesterday they floated this idea of changing social security. they've backed off on that. they apparently are willing to give on some of these estate taxes. the democrats are willing to give on some of the estate taxes. but what the republicans want is they say that this deal that's being offered looks like it actually p
president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >>...
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we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal. >> it is, absolutely. >> that's not really. >> you live in new york i live in d.c., washington, this is all causal. the reason he's talking about tax increases is to avoid the conversation and dealing with spending restraints. that's why obama does what he does. >> the reason i doubt that, grover, is because we've all done the math and we all absolutely agree on the math that you can't get out of the deficit hole we're in by taxing rich people even if you tax them at 100%. everybody know knows that. so whe
we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the...
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this deal. he says it's not good enough in part because the tax rates are on those who are making $400,000 or more, $450,000 or more if they're couples, and not on those who make $250,000 or more. that is the level that president obama campaigned on. he said folks who make $250,000 or more should pay more in taxes. richard trumka expressing concern tonight that this will ultimately wind up taking a larger cut into spending than democrats will be comfortable with. so that is some of the criticism on the left. i imagine vice president biden have l have to answer some questions about that when he heads over to the hill. but as kelly mentioned, he has been one of the key negotiators in this entire process. remember, on saturday, milissa, these negotiations had all but stalled. and that is the point at which minority leader mcconnell picked up the phone, called biden, asked him to engage in these negotiations. he did. he is of course a veteran of the senate. few people understand how the inner works
this deal. he says it's not good enough in part because the tax rates are on those who are making $400,000 or more, $450,000 or more if they're couples, and not on those who make $250,000 or more. that is the level that president obama campaigned on. he said folks who make $250,000 or more should pay more in taxes. richard trumka expressing concern tonight that this will ultimately wind up taking a larger cut into spending than democrats will be comfortable with. so that is some of the...
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in separate calls with president obama. so president obama has been on the phone here at the white house with the democratic leaders over in capitol hill, and discussed this deal with them, and both of the top democrats in congress have agreed to the terms of this deal so it looked like they have an agreement to proceed and we have something that congress, boat houses of congress can move forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the floor in the coming days. >> let's bring in a democratic senator, jeff merkley of oregon is joining us. you're getting ready to go into this democratic caucus meeting with the vice president, joe biden. what are you hearing right now? are you on board? >> we haven't heard the detail said, but there's three main things we want to nail down. first is fairness to people who versus those who are best off in society. the second is are we looking down the road to another fiscal cliff, such as sequestering or the dent ceiling kicking in a few
in separate calls with president obama. so president obama has been on the phone here at the white house with the democratic leaders over in capitol hill, and discussed this deal with them, and both of the top democrats in congress have agreed to the terms of this deal so it looked like they have an agreement to proceed and we have something that congress, boat houses of congress can move forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the...
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, something even president obama commented upon himself on monday. >> one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> and joining us now from capitol hill, democratic congresswoman debby wassermann schultz of florida who also serves as the dnc chair. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, mara. great to be with you. happy new year. >> in about an hour your conference meets on this bill. in attendance will be vice president joe biden. is it going to be difficult to sell your party on this deal? >> well, i think that we're going to come together in about an hour as a democratic caucus and hear the vice president out. there are a lot of good things in this bill that make sense and that i think it will ultimately earn the overwhelming majority of house democratic votes. we made sure that as we committed throughout this last campaign that we would not allow taxes to increase on 98% of americans that's in this deal. we made sure that we pushed off a really
, something even president obama commented upon himself on monday. >> one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> and joining us now from capitol hill, democratic congresswoman debby wassermann schultz of florida who also serves as the dnc chair. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, mara. great to be with you. happy new year. >> in...
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get this basic deal done that he's calling for. richard, one of the things that he said is that this is not how the american people do business. he said ordinary folks do their jobs. they need deadlines. and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. so the president really trying to ramp up public pressure. this is something that we have seen him do in the past. a tactic that he has taken in the past to really try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on house republicans. >> kristen, thank you for all of your work tonight. >> joined now by joy reed and clarence page. let's just take a listen to what kristen was talking about. let's roll the tape. >> the president seemed to be >> the president seemed to be much more comfortable today saying enough is enough. >> it did. he sounded like a man who knows he holds if not all the cards, a lot of them. he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when t
get this basic deal done that he's calling for. richard, one of the things that he said is that this is not how the american people do business. he said ordinary folks do their jobs. they need deadlines. and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. so the president really trying to ramp up public pressure. this is something that we have seen him do in the past. a tactic that he has taken in the past to really try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on...
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so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there are -- when there is a majority around who can fas? that's a pretty interesting dare that obama put out there. >> thank you, it's like a little school house rock on saturday afternoon here on msnbc. perry, if mitch mcconnell does make a deal, how does he sell that deal in kentucky and the reddest of red states, mind you? >> i think he can and the reason is, like i said, i think any deal he signs on to will be a deal 100, 120 house republicans will sign to. he's not going sign a deal by himself and he'll sign a deal that's acceptable to some conservatives and mitch mock connell has a huge amount o
so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there...
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president obama and congressional leaders try to pull off a fiscal cliff hail mary. their last-ditch meeting at the white house desperately tries to land a deal but the report he hadly not putting any new offer on the table. we have the very latest for you. >>> not even the fiscal cliff can slow down the u.s. oil boom the production surge sets up huge windfalls for businesses outside the oil industry in 2013. who stand to reap the biggest gains? we'll drill down details so you can get in on this game. >>> iran launches war games in the strait of hormuz flexing its military muscle in the heart of the critical seaway for global oil supplies. is iran just sabre-rattling or gearing up for something much bigger? even when they say it's not, it is always about money. adam: and a good evening to you. melissa francis will be back after the first of the year but right now let's look at today's market headlines of the investors were largely gripped by unfolding events in washington regarding the fiscal cliff. there was little optimism on wall street. stocks fell for their fift
president obama and congressional leaders try to pull off a fiscal cliff hail mary. their last-ditch meeting at the white house desperately tries to land a deal but the report he hadly not putting any new offer on the table. we have the very latest for you. >>> not even the fiscal cliff can slow down the u.s. oil boom the production surge sets up huge windfalls for businesses outside the oil industry in 2013. who stand to reap the biggest gains? we'll drill down details so you can get...
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president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and mcconnell. on one hand, obama is criticizing the congress but also giving them the responsibility to come up with a deal. this is on his watch. obama does not want this going into next year. he wants to move quickly on immigration and energy and maybe gun control. so, but he has not been able to strike a deal with the speaker and that is -- you know, takes two to tango, both have to compromise. both have failed repeatedly on getting a debt deal both in the summer of 2011 and now. how to it is up to the senate which up until recently has been shoved to the side. can they come to the rescue. >> thank
president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and...
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president obama says $250,000 is the line, maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $500,000, maybe somebody else $150,000. we can meet somewhere and cut that reason somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the uncertainty, the uncertainty that plagues us right now. in the olden days -- and i say olden, a long time ago -- i was a stock stockbroker. i was an economics major and a stockbroker on wall street. the thing wall street and investors can't take is uncertainty. if they know taxes are going up, they'll refigure things. if they know taxes are going down, they'll refigure things. if they know taxes are staying things, they'll figure it out. but right now they're frozen. because they don't know. and families are also in many ways frozen. they don't know whether they have to budget so that they'll have $200 -- $2,000 less next year. they don't know whether it will be $4,000. they don't know if it's ever going to change. and the uncertainty is -- is the fault of leaders who cannot get together. so i think it is critical that we get a deal. i hope it's in the next
president obama says $250,000 is the line, maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $500,000, maybe somebody else $150,000. we can meet somewhere and cut that reason somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the uncertainty, the uncertainty that plagues us right now. in the olden days -- and i say olden, a long time ago -- i was a stock stockbroker. i was an economics major and a stockbroker on wall street. the thing wall street and investors can't take is uncertainty....